Question about firearms for a fictional story...
 

I like to write short stories. Pure fiction, not based on any person living or dead. I sometimes post them on the internet for the amusment of others.

Anyway, this story I am currently writing has as its main character a guy who is a bit paranoid about a possible future confiscation of his firearms. He's just a jackass who doesn't trust his government too much. He has this nifty shotgun that he really likes, and would hate to have to turn it in if the anti-gun folks get their way in the future. See, when he bought this shotgun they recorded the serial number and his ID. This bums him out. I am going to have this purely fictional character find a way to make it look like he no longer owns his shotgun. I don't know much about this sort of thing, but I want my story to be realistic. What should I have this character do? Some things I am considering having this purely fictional, figment of my imagination character do in the story is make a fake bill of sale, or possibly file a fake police report that it was stolen. Any thoughts or other ideas on what this character should do to assure himself that when they come for his shotgun he can show he is no longer the owner?

Seriously, this is fiction.

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No can't file false reports! He has to loose it somehow. Like while duck hunting it fell out in the water and his dog carried it into the deep end, or deer hunting in the mountains and it fell into a hole in the ground, (underground cave or something silly but believable.) Can't make the guy look too dumb, you don't want to cast a bad image of a law abiding gun owner. That's why you don't want him doing anything illegal. He can look a little dumb just not illegal.

BTW, I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident.

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Here in my Micky Mouse one mule town they have a bulleting board at the grocery store where they post on 3x5 and they sell guns all the time, all you have to do is to call them then go over to their house and exchange fiat for guns, no paper work and no ID...... the guy in you story can do the same, he posted a for sell sign and someone came over and bought his shoot gun.

But of course I never done that, would feel funny about it :sleep:

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Have him fake his own death and create a new identity. They won't be able to track the shotgun to his new identity.

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Please do us all a favor and don't portray gun owners as jerks. We get enough bad publicity from Hollywood/mass media.

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He could buy another identical shotgun from a private party without documentation.
Then he can sell the registered one and reimburse himself or just keep it and wait for the JBT's to come after it.

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And, oh yeah, Dick Cheney!

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The only 'bill of sale' that will work is going to be one from an FFL. The "Boat accidents" and "I sold It at a Gun Show to some dude" excuses are going to get the drywall ripped out of his house.

Have him sell it to a Dealer and keep a copy of the sale. It will be LOGGED into the FFLs books that way. He can then go buy another from an individual without the paperwork.

Only way

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What you do is you buy another cheap one, and say you traded it at a gun show. Then they will take your cheap one and figure since your handing that over no problem, you must be telling the truth about the other.

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You have him watch the obituaries in his towns news paper,when he finds a death that lists no surviving relatives,he then has a bill of sale made up in this persons name 6 month to a year prior to the persons death.
When he is ever ask about the sale,his word has to be taken as the deceased will not be able to claim otherwise.

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Melbo, Sure boating accidents will work. Ever shoot a shotgun broadside while standing in a canoe??? :rofl:

Why go to the trouble of selling to an FFL? People buy and sell guns all the time in many states without ever going through a dealer or a gun show. Only about half the guns I own where purchased through an FFL dealer. Some have even been traded back and forth within the "family!" :cheerful: It's all perfectly legal too.

Now, if the character lives in one of those left wing gun registration states he'll have to come up with a much better plan. One that is probably constitutional but still illegal in his state.

Where will you hide your silver after they confiscate all your guns?:Sorry:

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There is really no good way to do what you are asking. The police would "see" through a phony bill of sale pretty quickly.
Does the State where your fictional character lives have any laws on the books regarding private sales? If not then your protagonist can just say "I sold it and I lost the guys Name & phone number. Considering the number of private sales that occur every year I do not think the authorities would try to arrest everybody who "lost" a name & phone number. If they did word would get out and people would start,well you know.

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Thank you all. You have given me much to think about. :)

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QWAK,I can tell you ONE thing DON'T buy it at WALMART!

I ordered a Ruger 10/22 to replace a 22 stolen from my cabin 20 yers ago. I payed for it and it was delivered to my local store with in 7 days BUT they will NOT release it untill THEY get the OK from the FBI! It has been a MONTH today and I have CALLED and even talked to people at Walmart corperate head quorters and told THEM that the LAW releases THEM of any responcibility after 3 days IF the FBI does not get back to them but they incist it is WALMART policy! I told some EXEC at the corperate HQ that it is an ARBITRART CHOICE on Walmarts part to COVER their ASS and is IMPOSING on CUSTOMERS RIGHTS under the CONSTITUTION and could leave them open to a CLASS ACTION SUIT and he HUNG UP on me! LOL go FIGURE!

I realy was looking forward to doing some PLINKING and sighting it in and when I check the Walmart online page for it I find the price has INCREASED in the last 30 days!

I am beginin to wonder if Walmart is some how part of the BIG BROTHER FAMILY? HUMmmmmmmmm

the DUCK

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Gold Duck, You must live in a really whacked out place. I know of a T/C Encore that was ordered at the local Wally World and the customer paid for it in advance. The Day it came in he was called and notified. The next day he picked it up. Since it was ordered with a black powder barrel they didn't even have him fill out the ATF form. They walked him to the front of the store, handed him the rifle and sent him on his way.

That was then, now it can have any of several rifle barrels or even change the butt stock and put on a pistol barrel in several different calibers. Talk about a sweet deal.

Did I ever say how much I love those gals in the Wal-Mart sporting goods department. That same customer also bought a Ruger 10-22 from that same store and walked away with it the same day. I think it depends on where you live the type of experience you have with Wal*Mart.

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Here in Oregon they call to check on you right away with you standing infront of them and if you are clean you get to take the gun with you.

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QWAK,My thinking is that there was a HANG UP, they did call the day I ordered and payed for it but did not get an instent CLEAR.

The Walmart people are set up on a "MINDLESS DRONE" system, they learn quickly that "NOT THINKING" keeps them out of trouble and that aparently holds true all the way up to the corperate level.

It is posable that the FBI does have a file on me as I once had a TOP SECRET clearence and in 2000 a company I filed a class action suit agenst DID file a FALSE complaint agenst me because I said on their YAHOO BOARD that the computor today was like the COLT 45 of the old west, it made ALL people (men) equal and that THIS DUCK hunts back! :) The FBI did call me and wanted me to come in for a talk and I told them THEY were NUTS and being sent on a WILD GOOSE CHACE for a DUCK!:tongue: Never did hear back from them.:rofl:

It realy is quite ABSURED because any one who knows me, KNOWS I don't and would not hurt any body or any living thing. The only thing I ever hunted was PEOPLE in NAM and that STILL bothers me!

OH WELL 30 days and counting but it shure is frustrating as I have ordered and recieved a bunch of acessories for my new stainless 10/22 and would like to play with it some and get comfortable with it set up all fancy.:bawling:

the DUCK

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Ok, now I understand. I think! It might be the Feds actually holding it up.

I carry a DOD ID and CCW, FBI fingerprinted former Vietnam Vet with TS. No known red flags on file. You might say they know who I am and where I live, and probably know about that T/C Encore, whoever that guy was that bought it from the Wal*Mart!!!.

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The character of the story is paranoid about confiscation.
Your points are valid.
My suggestion was the Sure Fire way to make sure he was not on the list of knock and grab.

My other suggestion was to have your character keep the SHotgun and buy more ammo for when they do come knocking. that "Cold Dead Hands" approach. Were I into guns, I'd prolly not give them up without a fight